Clarification of Visas and Korean military service
Disclaimer: These are my personal interpretations of Korean law through experiences of my 1.5 and 2nd generation friends and relatives. Please use the following information at your own risk and consult an attorney. You have been advised.
For official information, visit the Korean Consulate office.
The most common types of Visas used by Korean-Americans when entering Korea are:
No Visa
U.S. citizen can stay in Korea for up to 30 days without a Visa.
C-3
This is a tourist Visa which allows you to stay in Korea for up to 90 days.
F-4
This Visa allows Korean-Americans to live and work in Korea indefinitely. It is renewable every 2 years. It is issued to 1.5 Koreans who became naturalized U.S. citizens or U.S. born children of Korean-Americans who became naturalized U.S. citizens.
Obligation to serve in the Korean military:
1.5 generation Korean-Americans
For 1.5 Koreans, the day you became a naturalized U.S. citizen, you AUTOMATICALLY lost your Korean citizenship and you are not required to serve in the Korean military. Technically your name should’ve been removed from 호적(Hojuk), but if you never reported this fact, then your name stays on the 호적(Hojuk) in error.
Then you can enter Korea using no Visa, C-3, or F-4 Visas to enter Korea without worrying about Korean military service. I’ve traveled to Korea 3 times with a C-3 without a peep from the Korean military.
When you request for an F-4 Visa, you are required to show that you were once a Korean citizen. This can be proven by submitting your naturalization certificate which states your former nationality as Korean. Then, in order for 호적(Hojuk) to properly reflect this fact, they require you to file 국적상실신고서(Loss of Korean Citizenship). When you file this document, you are not renouncing your Korean Citizenship. You already lost your Korean Citizenship. You are simply reporting the fact that you lost your Korean Citizenship the day you became naturalized. Therefore, no judge intervention is necessary to remove your name from 호적(Hojuk). Once they process your 국적상실신고서(Loss of Korea Citizenship), and then you go pull your 호적(Hojuk) again, your name is no longer there. (If you had already filed 국적상실신고서 and you need to show that your name was on the 호적(Hojuk) but it was since removed, then you need to pull 제적등본(Jaejukdeungbon))
Obligation to serve in the Korean military:
2nd generation Korean-Americans
For 2nd Koreans, it’s a lot more complicated process. If you were born in U.S. and you also registered your name on your 호적(Hojuk) then Korean government treats you as a dual citizen until you are 18. If you do not renounce your Korean citizenship before you turn 18, then you are obligated to serve in the Korean military because you are a Korean Citizen in addition to being an American citizen. After 18, you no longer have any benefits of being a Korean citizen because they no longer recognize dual citizenship. It’s just that your obligation to serve in the Korean military still stays. (I know, it sucks and it is moronic.) If you try to renounce your Korean citizenship after you turn 18, then some legal process is required in order to renounce your Korean citizenship and to erase your name from 호적(Hojuk). If you are successful in removing your name from 호적(Hojuk), then your Korean military obligation disappears.
I strongly suggest any 2nd generation Koreans who registered their names on the 호적(Hojuk) to have their names removed through Consulate office before setting foot in the Korean soil.
Check out Mike’s blog regarding his personal experience in this matter. Also check out an article regarding a 2nd generation Korean-American who was forced to serve in the Korean military here.
For official information, visit the Korean Consulate office.
The most common types of Visas used by Korean-Americans when entering Korea are:
No Visa
U.S. citizen can stay in Korea for up to 30 days without a Visa.
C-3
This is a tourist Visa which allows you to stay in Korea for up to 90 days.
F-4
This Visa allows Korean-Americans to live and work in Korea indefinitely. It is renewable every 2 years. It is issued to 1.5 Koreans who became naturalized U.S. citizens or U.S. born children of Korean-Americans who became naturalized U.S. citizens.
Obligation to serve in the Korean military:
1.5 generation Korean-Americans
For 1.5 Koreans, the day you became a naturalized U.S. citizen, you AUTOMATICALLY lost your Korean citizenship and you are not required to serve in the Korean military. Technically your name should’ve been removed from 호적(Hojuk), but if you never reported this fact, then your name stays on the 호적(Hojuk) in error.
Then you can enter Korea using no Visa, C-3, or F-4 Visas to enter Korea without worrying about Korean military service. I’ve traveled to Korea 3 times with a C-3 without a peep from the Korean military.
When you request for an F-4 Visa, you are required to show that you were once a Korean citizen. This can be proven by submitting your naturalization certificate which states your former nationality as Korean. Then, in order for 호적(Hojuk) to properly reflect this fact, they require you to file 국적상실신고서(Loss of Korean Citizenship). When you file this document, you are not renouncing your Korean Citizenship. You already lost your Korean Citizenship. You are simply reporting the fact that you lost your Korean Citizenship the day you became naturalized. Therefore, no judge intervention is necessary to remove your name from 호적(Hojuk). Once they process your 국적상실신고서(Loss of Korea Citizenship), and then you go pull your 호적(Hojuk) again, your name is no longer there. (If you had already filed 국적상실신고서 and you need to show that your name was on the 호적(Hojuk) but it was since removed, then you need to pull 제적등본(Jaejukdeungbon))
Obligation to serve in the Korean military:
2nd generation Korean-Americans
For 2nd Koreans, it’s a lot more complicated process. If you were born in U.S. and you also registered your name on your 호적(Hojuk) then Korean government treats you as a dual citizen until you are 18. If you do not renounce your Korean citizenship before you turn 18, then you are obligated to serve in the Korean military because you are a Korean Citizen in addition to being an American citizen. After 18, you no longer have any benefits of being a Korean citizen because they no longer recognize dual citizenship. It’s just that your obligation to serve in the Korean military still stays. (I know, it sucks and it is moronic.) If you try to renounce your Korean citizenship after you turn 18, then some legal process is required in order to renounce your Korean citizenship and to erase your name from 호적(Hojuk). If you are successful in removing your name from 호적(Hojuk), then your Korean military obligation disappears.
I strongly suggest any 2nd generation Koreans who registered their names on the 호적(Hojuk) to have their names removed through Consulate office before setting foot in the Korean soil.
Check out Mike’s blog regarding his personal experience in this matter. Also check out an article regarding a 2nd generation Korean-American who was forced to serve in the Korean military here.
posted by Jonathan J. Kim at
3/13/2005 08:35:00 AM
5 Comments:
Some useful information...wish I had known it before coming here back in 2002. Perhaps I was just to excited to be coming to Korea to worry about all the details, as my dad had expressed worry that the military was a possibility...anyways it all worked out in the end, but not without some hassles in between.
By
Mike, at Friday, March 18, 2005 7:50:00 PM
Your hassles were not in vain Mike. All the rest of us who haven’t gone through the process learn from your experiences. Because of the fact that you shared your experiences on your blog, the rest of us can avoid the pitfalls. Kudos to your blog Mike!
By
Jonathan J. Kim, at Saturday, March 19, 2005 1:35:00 AM
Yes Kudos to Mike. Yet I am still going through trouble with my F-4 Visa. Why am I the unlucky one. Somehow I feel Korean government want to hassle me. Jon's Visa was a breeze. If they want us to wait for 국적상실 to get processed before issuing a F-4 Visa, why do they tell you to file the 국적상실 and F-4 Visa app together. Who wants to wait for 3 month to get that crap processed. Maybe they just money to deny your Visa once and get money again when you apply for F-4 Visa again. So frustrating dealing with people who are not sure even with their own laws. Well I am willing to go to the military if I have to but I don't think that will be easy for them since I am flat footed, deaf in one ear, and bad shoulder, hips and legs. lol If they take me, they are one determined government.
By
Corian, at Saturday, March 19, 2005 3:25:00 AM
OK, I called the LA Consulate and they told me I can get it the next day if I file F-4 Visa and 국적상실 together. That fool in Houston do not know what his doing. Man... I am so frustrated. Do I have to go to LA to get my Visa? But I am leaving for work in Korea next week!! AH!!!!
By
Corian, at Saturday, March 19, 2005 3:45:00 AM
Whew... I finally got things settled. The Houston Consulate told me I can get F-4 Visa. This is of course after I told them I called the LA Consulate and the LA Consulate said I can get F-4 Visa if I file the 국적상실 together. Seems like I am the only one 1.5 Male Korean-American applied for F-4 Visa in Texas. Last time I applied for my visitor Visa it took them 6 weeks and thats after I called them. I think some consulates are confused with 국적상실신고서 and 국적이탈신고서, which is for Koreans who have dual citizenship. The 2.0 Koreans. They have to choose 국적 before 17 years old or won't be able to until they fufill their military obligation. Advice to Korean American Texans, be prepared for some trouble with Korean Consulate in Houston. In doubt call the LA Consulate.
By
Corian, at Saturday, March 19, 2005 6:53:00 AM
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